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	<title>Comments on: MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP</title>
	<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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 		<title>Comment on MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP by: high school graduation gifts</title>
		<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-23486</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-23486</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;high school graduation gifts&lt;/strong&gt;

Post your - Alexander Blanc on social software, PHP, some Ruby, MMS ... informatively written, but do not agree with some points</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>high school graduation gifts</strong></p>
	<p>Post your - Alexander Blanc on social software, PHP, some Ruby, MMS &#8230; informatively written, but do not agree with some points
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 		<title>Comment on MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP by: Sigurd Magnusson</title>
		<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-5058</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-5058</guid>
					<description>Have you looked into SilverStripe, a PHP 5.2 project?

(Don't you get worried when someone purports to have written a framework in PHP4 when it clearly lacks major object oriented language features and therefore anything out of it really struggles to be compared to Django or Rails?)

Anyway, underneath SilverStripe is is the sapphire framework. It is fully featured by itself, however we're doing something quite different by additionally writing a fully fledged CMS that interplays beautifully with it (the CMS is focused on being both the web 2.0 expectation of &quot;intuitive&quot; and yet manages sites far bigger than blogs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Have you looked into SilverStripe, a PHP 5.2 project?</p>
	<p>(Don&#8217;t you get worried when someone purports to have written a framework in PHP4 when it clearly lacks major object oriented language features and therefore anything out of it really struggles to be compared to Django or Rails?)</p>
	<p>Anyway, underneath SilverStripe is is the sapphire framework. It is fully featured by itself, however we&#8217;re doing something quite different by additionally writing a fully fledged CMS that interplays beautifully with it (the CMS is focused on being both the web 2.0 expectation of &#8220;intuitive&#8221; and yet manages sites far bigger than blogs).
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 		<title>Comment on MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP by: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-395</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-395</guid>
					<description>I have just had a look at Doctrine and I must say it looks very promising. I am looking forward to putting it through its paces sometime soon. Thanks for pointing it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have just had a look at Doctrine and I must say it looks very promising. I am looking forward to putting it through its paces sometime soon. Thanks for pointing it out!
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 		<title>Comment on MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP by: Happy ORM'ing</title>
		<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-385</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-385</guid>
					<description>On your list you didn't meantion Doctrine (www.phpdoctrine.com), which is imo  the most complete ORM solution availible for PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On your list you didn&#8217;t meantion Doctrine (www.phpdoctrine.com), which is imo  the most complete ORM solution availible for PHP.
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 		<title>Comment on MVC model (and ORM) frameworks in PHP by: Brian Fioca</title>
		<link>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allrollover.co.uk/alexander/2006/02/09/mvc-model-and-orm-frameworks-in-php/#comment-2</guid>
					<description>Good post.  I agree that following Rails is generally not very productive, since it doesn't do any good to try to copy a thing that works fine the way it is for what it does.  We at the WASP team are working on a balance between the ideas introduced with Rails and some other useful things that it doesn't have.  It's true that this is still an early stage for PHP frameworks, but I believe that, with time, this will turn into a more mature arena and spawn some rather notable applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good post.  I agree that following Rails is generally not very productive, since it doesn&#8217;t do any good to try to copy a thing that works fine the way it is for what it does.  We at the WASP team are working on a balance between the ideas introduced with Rails and some other useful things that it doesn&#8217;t have.  It&#8217;s true that this is still an early stage for PHP frameworks, but I believe that, with time, this will turn into a more mature arena and spawn some rather notable applications.
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